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"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election; the people who COUNT the votes do." -- Joseph Stalin

Sunday, January 20, 2008

Clinton Gets Media Hype but Obama Wins Delegate Count

Don't you just love our media? Big headlines: "Clinton Wins in Nevada." But did she? What, may I ask, is a win? Clinton came away with 12 delegates while Obama pulled 13, despite Bill Clinton's chronic lying. This time Brazen Bill influenced hundreds of voters by saying that Obama considered the only good ideas the past 15 years were Republican ideas and using the amazing phrase: "I'm not making this up." Really, Bill?

Here is what Barack Obama really said:

Here is what Bill Clinton said:

How long is American going to put up with this man's chronic lying and Hillary's chronic enabling. He is a sex addict and a chronic liar. These facts are well known. Like him or not, that is the truth. In my opinion, Hillary's continuing silence while her subjects spread lie after lie about Barack Obama is a weakness of character and makes me seriously question her ability to be the President we need during these times. There is no doubt that the American people want an honest President. A recent Presidential Honesty poll has Obama leading Clinton as the most honest by 93% to 7%. It's time to put a stop to Bill Clinton's lies that have hurt America in the past and continue to hurt America. His shameless behavior on the campaign is embarrassing.

UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: AP and NBC have now changed their delegate counts to 13 for Obama and 12 for Clinton.


Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) won today's raw vote in Nevada but senior aides to Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) believe they have narrowly won the fight for delegates in the Silver State.

In a just completed conference call with Obama campaign manager David Plouffe and director of delegate selection Jeff Berman argued that the Illinois Senator will leave Nevada today with 13 pledged delegates to 12 for Clinton thanks the weighting of northern and rural areas in the state.

An Associated Press official on the call suggested that Obama's campaign may well be right and the organization was looking seriously at its own math.

While the process of delegate apportionment is extremely complicated, it boils down to this: in the places that Clinton won, there were an even number of delegates that were split between she and Obama. In the places Obama won, there were an odd number of delegates, meaning that he often took two delegates to one for Clinton.

"On one very important measure, we had a slight lead," said Plouffe. "Just as important as the number is why that is: we showed real strength statewide."

Plouffe demurred when asked whether if Obama turned out to have won the delegate count, he should be declared the victor in Nevada.



  1. Do you have any ideas as to WHY the Clinton Machine will even stoo so low as to 'divide' the Democratic party - just to win the White House? If Gov. Howard Dean continues to allow Billy to turn RED and wag that FINGER one more time....I'm afraid that the Democrats may find that they lose the majority in either the Senate or House (maybe both) in 08.
    Bill is destroying his party at the expense of Hillary and it has me baffled as to WHY the party is allowing it to continue?

  2. This may be an oversimplification but my feeling are that the Clinton's #1 priority is to regain The White House.

    They share a very 'end justifies the means' attitude.


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